Trumps and Trumpets

God's trumps are very important in understanding when the "Gathering Back" to our Lord Jesus Christ will take place. Does it happen before, during, or after the time of tribulation? - the time of tribulation being that of antichrist, the son of perdition, when his existence will be “defacto”, here on earth. (Rev 12:12)

The reason the timing of the “Gathering Back” has become so important to understand in our day, is that there is a great deception that will come upon the world by Satan when he comes here “defacto”, claiming to be Christ. He wants to trick those that call themselves by Christ’s name (Christians) to gather unto him and to worship him. He finds joy in deceiving non-Christians in this manner as well, but it is much more pleasing to him when he can pluck God’s children away from God’s outstretched saving arms. But God would not leave us without warnings of the deception and clear signals as to the timing of this important gathering to Him. And what better way to signal us but by way of a resounding trumpet! A clear signal that reveals things to come.

There are many ministers, preachers, and so-called teachers in today’s churches that say you do not need to read, study, or learn the book of Revelation. They claim that our gathering unto Christ happens before satan comes to earth; so why confuse yourself with the difficulties of understanding the book of Revelation? Yet the very word "Revelation" means "to reveal" or “to unveil”. These same teachers call “The Gathering Back to Christ” as “The Rapture” and explain that we will be gone before Satan’s arrival by referencing Rev 4:1.

As we read this verse, it is a wonderment how they come to this conclusion considering that the scripture does NOT say the church was taken up, it states "I, JOHN, was in the spirit". Yet they claim it is the entire body of believers that are called up to be in the air with Christ. Let’s read the verses they see as proof that the “Church” is called up:

Rev 4:1-2 (KJV) After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

Who was sitting on that thrown? Christ. And it was the person who penned the Book of Revelation, John, that was taken to the Lord's Day and shown what was to be taught in the churches. It is amazing how some would teach this to be our gathering to Christ. It is plainly stated that John was taken in the Spirit to the heavenly realm and placed before Christ’s thrown in order to see future events that must be taught to the body of Christ, the church.

Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.

The Lord's Day is traditionally accepted as one thousand years or a millennium. This is based on 2 Peter 3:8:

“But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”

This “Day of the Lord” is where John was taken and the Book of Revelation contains what John was shown would happen leading up to the Lord’s Day as well as what would happen during and after. I want you to make a mental note. How did John appear before the throne? In the spirit! Confirming the following scripture:

Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

So I think it rather clear that it was John that was brought to the Lord’s Day, in the Spirit, and it was NOT the church called to “Come Up Hither”.

Another argument that the folks pushing the rapture doctrine will tell you is that the word "church" does not appear in God's word after chapter 4. They go on to say that this must mean the church was taken up, not just John, or else the church would be mentioned! They want so badly to hold to what it is they wish to believe, rather than the very words that are written. Or maybe they just don’t read the words that are written.

If any of you that are reading this are holding on the the Rapture Doctrine, I will ask you to now, put aside the traditions you have blindly trusted that you have been taught by man, maybe your church leader, and open your minds to the words of God that are actually written, for:

Rev 1:3 (KJV) Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

God's word states that those that READ and those that HEAR the words of this PROPHECY are blessed! That does not mean only PART of the Word, but the COMPLETE book of Revelation; especially not just one part of a sentence used to support a false teaching. Take the entire bible into your mind. Yes that means investing a considerable amount of time in your Father’s Word; and what a place to be! Let’s re-read Rev 22:16, so we can pull off some more blinders concerning the church and exactly where it is:

Rev 22:16 (KJV) I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Right off you should notice that we are WAY beyond Chapter 4 in Revelation; disproving that the “church” is no longer mentioned after the “Come up hither” of Rev 4:1. From Christ’s own mouth, He states that He sent His angel (messenger) to testify “these things”, being told to John, IN the churches! If the church was raptured and with Christ, why would Christ be telling him in chapter 22 to go unto the churches and tell them about the book of Revelation? So who do you choose to believe? God's word or some man clothed as a teacher of God, teaching something other than what is written?

When the blinders are off, it is easy to see that "These things," mentioned in Rev 22:16, are the things which are revealed in His word from chapter 1 all the way through chapter 22 in the book of Revelation. As stated before, the word Revelation means to reveal. How can it be revealed if you do not read the book, and are told you don’t need to, by a so-called teacher? I don’t care what status he has been given by man in a seminary, or what title he chooses to use after his so-called schooling. Many men and church leaders have repeatedly been shown to be wrong about God’s Word, even the so-called teachers that headed the church in Christ’s time. And strangely enough, many church-goers get so lazy that they begin to rely on the words of men blindly without making sure that what they teach lines up with what is written.

So with that said, let’s take a close look at this word "trump." If you locate the word TRUMP everywhere it appears in the bible, outside of the book of Revelation, it appears only twice; Cor 15:52 and Thes 4:16. I consider this interesting, so let's go to these two places.

In 1 Cor 15:52, where the word “trump” is found, has a subject which me must be understood from the prior verses, so let’s go back a bit to verse 35:

1 Cor 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

This is the subject is: “How are the dead raised up, and “With what body do they come?”

Let’s listen to God’s answer through Paul:

1 Cor 15:42-44 (KJV) So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Paul is clear here. We are told: There are two bodies; a flesh body, and a spiritual body, & "IT IS RAISED A SPIRITUAL BODY!"

Flesh goes back to the ground and the spirit goes back to God who gave it. This is confirmed in Eccl.12:7 and by checking any grave site you wish. At the grave sites you will find flesh and bones, but no spirit.

Eccl 12:7 (KJV) Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Also, Paul makes it very clear in 1Cor 15:50 that flesh will not be in the kingdom of heaven. Some say flesh and blood, but nevertheless, we must listen to God’s word states. If 1 Cor 15:50, and Rom 8:8 (mentioned earlier) is not clear enough for some, then Cor 5:5 is very clear.

1 Cor 5:5 (KJV) To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

What is the answer to 1Cor 15 35? The flesh shall be destroyed and we shall be raised in our incorruptible, celestial, spiritual bodies. Now WHEN will this happen? Paul tells us:

1 Cor 15:50 (KJV) Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

Note: All shall be changed. Upon the death of the flesh, all return to God in the spirit; albeit, for some, it will be for a very short period of time.

We also gained much knowledge here in 1 Cor 15:50 when it stated that “We shall not all sleep but we all shall be changed” What is this change? It is the “Gathering back to Christ” and what the false teachers call the “Rapture”. It isn’t so much the event that is the problem, remember, it is the timing, and who you will be worshiping as a result of that timing, sounded by a trump. Some will be worshiping at the 6th Trump, God’s election will be worshiping at the 7th.

So where can we document when will this take place?

1 Cor 15:52 (KJV) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Here you have the mystery that Paul was showing us in the word of God! "When" this shall occur is at the last trump. The trumpet SHALL sound, and we ALL shall be changed from our flesh, corruptible, terrestrial bodies, to our Spiritual bodies (incorruptible body). This is the subject in 1Cor 15:35-55.

Many Christians do not understand Christ’s transfiguration upon His death of the flesh. The transfiguration was done in order to prove He rose from the dead and that death had been defeated through His sacrifice. In Luke, Christ’s words are clear; the spiritual bodies do not have flesh as you and I have right now. We know in 1 Cor 15:44 and Eccl 12:7 we shall be raised in spiritual bodies and we know from 1Cor 5:5 and many other scriptures that the flesh shall be destroyed.

Luke 24:38-39 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

This put's the nail in the coffin of MAN'S logic regarding 1 Cor 15:50:

“Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.”

This leaves no doubt, for these are the words of CHRIST.

“The spirit hath not FLESH AND BONES as you see me have.”

We will be raised in the spirit body and the spirit body does not have flesh and bones as Christ did during His time of transfiguration. God the Father had to raise the flesh body of the Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ, to prove to man that HE did defeat death and that HE did rise from the dead, and there were over 500 witnesses! This was the purpose of Christ being raised in the flesh, his hands and feet still pierced.

So to recap 1 Cor 15:35-58, we know upon the death of the flesh body, we put on our incorruptible, spiritual bodies. We know this occurs in a twinkle of an eye, and we know we shall be raised in our spiritual bodies, at the last trump.

Now let’s go to 1 Thess 4:16 where for the second time in the New Testament the word “trump” appears.

1 Thess 4:13 (KJV) But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

The subject Paul is answering here is to not be ignorant of them which are asleep and no gathering back has been mentioned. As we approach verse 16, we hear from Paul about the gathering back to Christ and it is at the time of a “TRUMP”. Up to this point, the subject has been “not to be ignorant of where those that are asleep are”.

1 Thess 4:16 (KJV) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Rapture believers use the next verse, 17, to support their views of the church being removed.

1 Thess 4:17 “Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

Rapture believers hear the words “Caught Up” from this verse and correlate it with Revelation 4’s “Come Up Hither” where John was taken to the Lord’s Day. But that won’t fly friends! Literally. Two different books, two different subjects; one being the gathering back unto Christ and the other being John taken in the spirit to the Lord’s Day!

Now remember what was just said in verse 16, this “Caught up” which IS our gathering back to Christ happens at the time of a “Trump”. The problem once again for the rapture believers is their timing. When John was taken to the Lord’s Day, there was no sound of a Trump for that event, but here in verse 16 we are told that the gathering back does happen at the sound of a Trump.

Also, the rapture theory states that Christ secretly takes the “church” from the earth even before the 6th trump, before antichrist shows up. Rapture believers are so afraid of staying in the field and of the tribulation, that they feel God would never allow them to be present during that time. So He provides them an escape. That is simply not written.

So I ask rapture believers to tell me, which one of the 7 trumps is being mentioned in 1 Thes s 4:16? It surely can’t be the 7th trump or the “church” would still be here during the tribulation! If I were a rapture believer (God forbid), I would really want to know when my rapture teachers point of view as to which trump are we talking about when being “caught up”. Does it happen in the, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, or 7th trump?

Let’s find out for ourselves. We find the trumps of God in the Book of Revelation, chapter 8 through 11. Let’s pinpoint the trump announcing our Gathering Back to Christ spoken of in this 1st book of Thessalonians. In 1 Thes 4:16, we are given some very important information.

- Our Great Lord Himself shall descend from heaven
- He’ll do this with the voice of the archangel
- And it takes place with on of the trumps of God
Rev 8:2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.

Do not let anyone tell you there are more than 7 trumps and remember, those 7 trumps are given to His angels / messengers. The trumps are a call to action and they are given in chronological order. For example, in the cavalry of an army, when the bugler would play taps, you knew a burial was to follow. Therefore when we hear the Trumps of God, you know a specific action will follow.

Rev 8:3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.

Here, we see an eighth angel which does not have a trump but he does have the prayers of the saints. The golden censer or incense is symbolic of the prayers being carried up to God; God hears our prayers; And the 7 trumps is His answer to the prayers offered up.

Can you to hear the trumps of God? Let’s listen!

Rev 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

Rev 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

Rev 8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

Rev 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

Rev 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

Rev 9:13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, 14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

You want to take a guess now which trump is the last one to sound? That's right, the 7th one! There can only be "One" last trump! Have you heard any description of action for the gathering back to take place yet? No!

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

It is at this 7th and final trump that the following happens:

1Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

At this final trump of God we are gathered back to Him. It is when this 7th trump sounds that:

1 Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

We are told additional happenings at this final trump in Revelation 11:

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

The amazing 7th trump, the last trump to sound, the trump of God; the long awaited time comes that the Kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ and He shall reign for ever and ever.

There is no need for further documentation concerning the timing of the “gathering back”. The word of God is clear we shall be gathered back, at the last trump. At the sound of the last trump, we shall be changed. It is at the last trump that all things are completed. There are no more trumps because there is no more action regarding the mystery of God. In a twinkle of an eye, at the sounding of this last trump, we all return to Him as we put off the flesh and kneel before him in our Spiritual bodies. 1Cor 15:52

Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

The mystery of what would happen is over, the anti-christ has been revealed, but there is something else left that some may not have considered and that is a “woe” that accompanied the 7th Trump in Revelation 8:13:

“And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!”

The last 3 trumps are woe trumps, the final trump being the 7th Trump. Why would the trump of God, the seventh and last trump, be a woe trump to some? The answer is contained in the following verse:

Matt 24:19 (KJV) And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! Christ is not speaking of an actual mother with an actual child. He is warning those that have no knowledge of the truth of God’s word. This has always been taught throughout God’s word and many are ignorant of it.

Isaiah 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? [them that are] weaned from the milk, [and] drawn from the breasts.

God considers those that claim to be His yet are ignorant of the letter that He sent to them, as babies; for babies are helpless to fight against predators such as Satan and his lies. If someone does not have their spiritual armor on and in place, they are as defenseless as a baby. How do you build spiritual armor? By studying your Father’s Word.

In his first letter to the Corinthians, the apostle Paul used this same comparison of feeding the word to those that could hear and understand God’s Word as meat and to those that couldn’t understand as having to feed them milk:

1 Cor 3:1-2 “And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, [even] as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able [to bear it], neither yet now are ye able.”

So for those Christians that are leaning on their ministers, preachers, and so-called teachers who are telling them that they will be gone and that they will be gathered back to Christ before the 7th Trump instead of listening to God Himself through His Word, certainly there is a WOE they will recon with at the 7th Trump. For they will be ignorantly worshiping Satan and following his doctrine. Yes, Woe to them that did not remain spiritually, a virgin bride until the wedding day when Christ comes as the husbandman for his bride, the church. And yes, Woe to them that will willingly "fly-off" into the arms of the spurious messiah at the sixth trump, instead of remaining, waiting, watching, and working in the field until the last trump, the 7th trump.

Ezek 13:20 (KJV) Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.

For those that have ears to hear and eyes to see, God sends His elect to be delivered up and the Holy Spirit will speak with that tongue of Pentecost and yes, some of the souls will be ripped from satan’s lies. But sadly, not all will turn to truth even after witnessing God’s miracle of the cloven tongue. Another absolutely astonishing fact is that when the rapture teachers throw out 1 Thessalonians 4:1 to support their fly-away doctrine, they completely leave out Paul’s 2nd letter to the Thessalonians warning them not to be confused about his first letter; the letter describing our gathering back to Christ.

2 Thess 2:1 (KJV) Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

There should be no confusion that the subject is about our "Gathering Back," to our Lord Jesus Christ, which is called by some baby, milk-fed Christian churches, "The Rapture."

Paul says here, “I beseech you”. He truly wants their attention on the matter he is about to address. He continues, “I tell you regarding the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and by our gathering together unto him...” This is the subject, a whole chapter written concerning our Gathering Back to Christ, the so-called “rapture”. Let's listen to Paul’s warning:

2 Thess 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

What is “that day”, it is the day our Lord comes to gather us back, that’s the subject being discussed! When is “that day”? Well it SHALL NOT COME until:

1. there is a falling away 1st
2. that man of sin is revealed who is the son of perdition

Paul warns us, Let no man deceive you! For the word of God surely tell us these things and what events will transpire through the sounding of the trumps and precisely what action will follow.

Regarding this “son of perdition” there is only one; and that is Satan himself. He was given the sentence of death after his rebellion against God, but God has a specific time to carry out that sentence of death upon satan and that happens after the world witnesses him standing in the holy place claiming to be Christ (God with Us). Understand, this does not happen upon Satan’s immediate arrival on earth which is at the 6th Trump, 6th Vial, & 6th Seal (6,6,6) but a short time after, at the 7th Trump.

Ezek 28:18-19 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never [shalt] thou [be] any more.

2 Thess 2:8-9 (KJV) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

Satan and his evil spirit is already at work as he sets up his earthly kingdom called the 1st beast. His actual physical coming as the 2nd beast will soon follow this 1st beast, and he will be performing lying wonders, claiming to be Christ, saying "Gather Unto me, all ye that are weary, come up into my chariot". But we are told what will happen so we can be prepared mentally. We are told that those lying wonders will be destroyed at the 7th Trump when with the brightness of the true Christ’s arrival. The brightness of His Truth shall illuminate even the darkest corners where Satan’s lies try to hide. The Word of God will help you put on the armor necessary so you will not be one of those that are deceived. Isn’t it time to eat the meat of God’s word rather than the milk? Powdered mild at that! Check out Matt 24, Mark 13, & Luke 21, to read more about the 7 events that consummate the end of this age. Just remember to always be aware of Satan’s seal of 666 and God’s seal of 777. The false one comes in the six trump, sixth vial, and 6th seal, our Lord comes in all 7’s!

Is it not time for you to do a line by line study of His word?

by a fellow S.C. bible student